3.4.08

"If it lacks feeling, it's worthless to me"

Although you’ll rarely find me in the pit, punching random people or crowdsurfing, I too feel like a real hardcorekid. So when asked to pick a topic for my paper, I decided to try and write something about this music-centered community I –despite all cynism – hold close to my heart. Having all these vague ideas in my head, but not really knowing where to start, I decided to interview some people I thought were/are important to the scene and ask them for their personal experiences, hoping to be able to give this undecipherable feeling that accompanies the whole thing a name.

One of those people is Bjorn Dossche (27), whom most of you probably know as the singer for Belgium’s underground pride Rise And Fall. I hadn’t ever talked to him before and thus didn’t quite know what to expect when meeting him at De Vooruit in Ghent, but luckily, he turned out to be this really nice and easy-going guy, making this interview one of the most personal and casual ones in the heap. This is the first part of a rather long interview. Other parts will follow as soon as I find some time to transcribe and translate them.

Bjorn: “Back when I was twelve, I was into this whole metal-thing. With the small amount of money I had, I bought cassettes and CDs. CDs were just coming up back then. I also bought music magazines, and once I read this review for a Sick Of It All album. I completely dug what was written, the album got a good score and I bought it blindly. It had a huge impact. For me, that was the starting point to get to know other bands that were linked to SIOA and other big names from that time, like Biohazard and Life Of Agony."

"After a while, you start discovering all these smaller undergroundbands. When I was 14-15 years old I started going to shows. Once you discover those a new world reveals itself in front of you. Congress was my first show. Listening to an American band on CD is one thing, but discovering that there’s a network of people that share a more or less common view and that are working on the same thing in your own neighborhood is just ‘wow’.”

What impression did that first show leave?

“It was pretty mind-blowing. You read about these things, but you never imagine that they actually happen in small basements, with 150 attendees, of which 50 are going completely crazy. There’s loads of energy, positive vibes.

Also, these people actually had something to say on stage, they were representing something. You got the feeling you found something that was yours. To me, the connection between the audience and the band is important too. It’s a whole.”

What does the scene mean to you?

“I look at the hardcorescene as a forum for creativity. Everyone can pick up an instrument and start making music, and if you can’t play by the rules, it doesn’t matter. The most important thing is that you can write a song that touches and that you take a stand as a band. In hardcore it has never been necessary to be supertalented or have the finest equipment. You just had to make the best of it. It's an attitude I can relate to very much.”

Is it really still that way nowadays? People seem to expect more and more.

“Time never stops, and so recording technology and such constantly improves, but I think the basic principles have remained intact. Hardcore has been around for 25 years, so I think it’s normal for people to expect something more nowadays. The basic idea should remain untouched, though. I still think it’s cool that everyone can take the stage and just give himself entirely. That’s also the charming thing about it. If I see a band with young kids, and they’re not really good, but they just go for it all the way, that’s so much cooler than a band of professional musicians with towers of equipment, who are much older but still haven’t understood jack shit of it all, and who stand there with an attitude like “hey, you’ve got to respect us because we’re older.”
If it lacks feeling, it’s worthless to me.”

How would you explain to someone that has no clue at all what this whole 'scene' thing is?

“A bunch of lunatics.” (laughs)
No, I don’t know. I just wouldn’t I guess. It’s something you have to experience. To explain the whole concept to someone is impossible I guess. But a quick, ten-minute description will not get you any further either. You’d just have bring that person to a show. Experiencing it is the most important thing. And talking with people involved. That way, I think he’ll get a better image of those people. You can talk about it for hours, but eventually it’s the participation that makes the scene what it is. It’s not science or something.”

Which bands have been of great influence to you?

“In the beginning I would say SOIA, and Life Of Agony. When I got to know the smaller bands, also Strife. It was the first band I knew that was talking so openly about straightedge. I digged it a lot. Also Undertow and Unbroken.”

And nowadays?

“I always keep the bands with which I grew up in high regard. But from the ‘newer’ bands, I would say Blacklisted is one of my favorites. Justice, Rhythm To The Madness, Cold World, World Collapse.. lot’s of different things.”

How did those early bands influence you on a personal level?

"Once I started going more to shows and started to understand how everything worked, I began to realize that hardcore was some kind of free and open forum for certain ideas and ideals. Some people were more direct and confronting about that, like Earth Crisis. But it left an impression. There were lots of bands that al stood for something else and that weren’t afraid to be extreme or militant about that. I liked that. In the end, when you’re 15-16 years old and you’re still searching for yourself, a good idea for someone else is almost automatically a good idea for you. When you get older, you start seeing things in a more subtle way. But take Strife and their straightedge message for example: I could completely relate to what they had to say about it. “This is also my life,” I thought.”

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